HAM
Surname DNA Project
Research
through Genetics
HAM
DNA Group # 7
Y-SEARCH Study for the HAM Surname DNA Project
This Group
has been tested as I1c
(also known as
"I1b2a," and now known as I2b1 (I-M223) - but here the search was
originally for "I1c." )
GOAL: To determine the possible ancestral origins
for the HAM DNA Group # 7.
Date:
December 11, 2007
updated menu links and haplotype group name
July. 2016, and updated links in May, 2018
GOAL: Perform a Y-Search
in order to determine the possible ancestral origins for the HAM
DNA Group # 7.
PROCEDURE
There have not been
enough
participants in Group #7 for an Ancestral procedure, so a simple
Y-Search study has been performed here.
Step 1:
Search the
Y-SEARCH Database (www.ysearch.org)
for matches to this "HAM DNA AGroup # 7" Haplotype:
The results:
Group # 7 Y-Search DNA Distribution (matches) throughout
Europe
Group #7 matches in England
Group #7 matches in Ireland
Group #7 matches in Scotland
Group #7 matches in Germany
GOAL:
To determine the possible ancestral origins for
the HAM DNA Group # 7.
PROCEDURE:
5) Search the Y-Search database for matches to the ancestral
haplotype.
-
From this search, report out the percentage matches that do NOT
exist
in the US.
These results
could then be used to provide some guidance for locating ancestors
in future research.
Step 1:
Search the YSEARCH Database (www.ysearch.org)
for matches to this "HAM DNA Group 7" Haplotype:
85679 Stephen HAM (1765 Culpeper Co. VA - 1821 Madison Co. KY)
14 23
15 10 14
15 11 13
11 13 12 31 14
8
10 11 11
25 14 20
27 11 14
14 15
In effect, we are looking for the location to match this Group # 7
to the immigrant ancestor across the Atlantic.
Matching entered genetic markers on at least 12
markers, allowing a genetic distance of 1 per marker matched above
10.
Showing matches with Haplogroup I1c. (This haplotype is also
known as "I1b2a," but here the search is for "I1c." )
I am looking for about 1500 matches, in an effort to improve the
statistics. The search returned about 322 matches.
This Y-Search
on the "Ancestral" Haplotype, and got a search that yielded 322
matches, using this search:
http://www.ysearch.org/search_results.asp?uid=&freeentry=true&L1=14&L2=23&L3=15&L4=0&L5=10&L6=14&L7=15&L8=11&L9=13&L10=11&L11=13&L12=12&L13=31&L14=14&L15=8&L16=10&L17=11&L18=11&L19=25&L20=14&L21=20&L22=27&L23=11&L24=14&L25=14&L26=15&L27=0&L28=0&L29=0&L30=0&L31=0&L32=0&L33=0&L34=0&L35=0&L36=0&L37=0&L38=0&L39=0&L40=0&L41=0&L54=0&L55=0&L56=0&L57=0&L58=0&L59=0&L60=0&L61=0&L62=0&L63=0&L42=0&L64=0&L65=0&L66=0&L67=0&L68=0&L69=0&L70=0&L71=0&L49=0&L72=0&L73=0&L51=0&L74=0&L75=0&L76=0&L77=0&L78=0&L79=0&L80=0&L43=0&L44=0&L45=0&L46=0&L47=0&L48=0&L50=0&L52=0&L53=0&L81=0&L82=0&L83=0&L84=0&L85=0&L86=0&L87=0&L88=0&L89=0&L90=0&L91=0&L92=0&L93=0&L94=0&L95=0&L96=0&L97=0&L98=0&L99=0&L100=0&min_markers=12&mismatches_max=0&mismatch_type=sliding&mismatches_sliding_starting_marker=10&haplo=I1c®ion=
I then searched
through these matches for all of the "known" and NON-USA matches,
and tallied up the totals (186 were non-USA), then worked out
percentages of where this "Ancestral" Haplotype should be found in
the world.
The results:
Group #7 Ancestral
DNA Distribution (matches) throughout Europe
322 matches
obtained.
186 returned a Country other than the US or "unknown"
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England:
48 + United
Kingdom:
8
56/186 = 30.1 %
Ireland:
36
36/186
= 19.4 %
Scotland:
30
30/186
= 16.1 %
Germany:
16
16/186
= 8.6 %
Switzerland:
7
7/186
= 3.8 %
France:
6
6/186
= 3.2 %
Denmark:
5
5/186
= 2.7 %
Canada:
3
3/186
= 1.6 %
Mexico:
3
3/186
= 1.6 %
Netherlands: 3 (plus "Holland"
=
4) 4/186
=
2.2 %
Holland:
1
Sweden:
3
3/186
= 1.6 %
Bahamas:
2
2/186
= 1.1 %
Norway:
2
2/186
= 1.1 %
Poland:
2
2/186
= 1.1 %
---------
175
OTHER (less than 0.5 %
each): 6
Argentina
1
1/186
= 0.5 %
Austria
1
1/186
= 0.5 %
Brazil
1
1/186
= 0.5 %
Wales:
1
1/186
= 0.5 %
Ukraine: 1
1/186
= 0.5 %
Russia:
1
1/186
= 0.5 %
Presuming that
we
could determine something from these totals, I would guess that
this
group should be found mostly in England, with smaller portions
from
Ireland and Scotland. It would appear that they should be 1.6
times as
likely to be from England than from Ireland, and 1.87 times as
likely
to be from England than Scotland. And about 3.5 times as likely to
be
from England than from Germany.
Because I was
observing the "I1c" haplotype, the Genetic Distance,
was pretty much in line with what you might expect for a normal
distribution. It
has occurred to me that the search may have to be repeated or
corrected, since the numbers are so small.
At the moment, we
have no participants in Group # 7 that can indicate the immigrant
ancestor with any certainty, but he is presumed to have immigrated
from
England, since Virginia was a colony of England.
More
differences from Group # 7 appear when the distribution is listed
within each country (below).
It is
interesting that for these countries, many give city or county
locations. It is almost as if I could see how many locations
are in common for the majority matching in England, Ireland, or
Scotland, for example.
ENGLAND:
From the totals
that I have for England, and without going to very much trouble of
attempting to determine the name of the County for the cities, I
get a
rough account of the results that look something like this:
Staffordshire
(3)
Kingstone,
Staffordshire 1
Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire 1
Bedfordshire
(2)
Stanbridge, Bedfordshire
1
Middlesex
2
others (less
than 4
each):
18
I
might want to repeat here that this haplotype is also known as
"I1b2a," but here the search is for "I1c."
It is
apparent
that from the locations in England, the most likely locations of
origin
should be closely matched by Staffordshire, followed next
by Bedfordshire and Middlesex .
You can find a map of English Shires from the 10th century at:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd_1911/shepherd-c-060.jpg
IRELAND:
From the
results
for Ireland, the obvious appears to be Northern Ireland.
County
Cork and County Down having the largest totals.
The more
significant totals as I have them:
Northern
Ireland
(7)
County Derry 3
Dublin
2
Monaghan (2)
Rakeeragh, Ematris, County Monaghan 1
Tyrone (2)
Corderry, County
Tyrone
1
Killyman Parish, County Tyrone 1
Ulster
2
Notice that the
total matching for County Derry match what we might expect from Staffordshire in England.
SCOTLAND:
The more significant totals as I have
them for Scotland:
Hazelbank
3
Argyll (2)
Morvern Parish , Argyll 1
Ardfin, Jura, Argyllshire 1
GERMANY
Pfalz
(2)
Rheinland
Pflatz
1
Roettersheim, Pfalz (Palatinate) 1
- Dave
Hamm Dec 11th, 2007